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MR
218 comments since 20 Jul 2007
With no disrespect intended to the artists concerned who made these hangy thingy things, winning $15,000 with what looks distinctly similar to the window displays in the furniture shop down the road from my place would certainly be hitting the jackpot of life’s alter Lotto!

And B’art, if decorating the walls with pretty colours and curls is making the world a better place then I concede to you on that point.
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b'art Homme
12 articles & 207 comments since 22 May 2010
Indeed Mr.
Nice art for the devilish art dosh PRIZE. I mean "art prize"... it's like saying "freedom to express race"... Da Vinci is a nose in front, Duchamp all tangled in string bringing up the rear... only a furlong to go and who is that jockey from downunder bleating I AM being nudged out by his countryman naying WE ARE, WE ARE. Oh it's a great "Happy nice art prize stakes race" today.
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mr tourette
9 articles & 289 comments since 29 Jan 2009

moolah

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b'art Homme
12 articles & 207 comments since 22 May 2010
Please don't get me started on the dairy industry Mr. T
nosferatu
1 articles & 323 comments since 27 Dec 2007
why not get started on that b'art Homme?

if memory serves correctly the dairy industry and waikato art museum have significantly conjoined past history thanks to the bizarre way HCC re-interpreted the museums brief to include a long-term Fonterra sponsored educational exhibition on milk production...situated semi permanently in the only gallery that had previously been regularly used for high quality contemporary exhibition projects.

milk versus art, unholy binary opposition that could only happen in the waikato

seems to me that rant you are suppressing is a logical extension to a conversation about the Trust waikato art awards, especially as the conversation has already been venturing into corporate cynicism versus polemical idealism in the arts...

mooolah!
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b'art Homme
12 articles & 207 comments since 22 May 2010
the udder of the year award........hhhmmmmmmmmmm
Madgie
43 comments since 2 Jul 2010

Second prize...

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mr tourette
9 articles & 289 comments since 29 Jan 2009

what second prize is parthenogenesis?

reminds me of an old joke...

 

Q: Why wasn't Jeezus born in the Waikato?

A: Couldn't find three wise men and a virgin.

bar't pull the other one.

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b'art Homme
12 articles & 207 comments since 22 May 2010
Dairy facts.

In 1988 or so there were 2.3 million milking cows in NZ now nearly 5 million.
We have lost 98% of all natural wetlands.

Dairy board subsidiaries used to sell (and probably still do) milk powder to breast feeding mothers in the middle east with free attached soft toys.

In Sri Lanka The Dairy Board was actively involved in the politics of civil war where warring dairy giants like Nestle and The Dairy board would slag each other's products off saying they were contaminated with nuclear and other poisons. Each of the giants supporting one or other of the Tamil/ State sides in the market turf wars.

The usual argument is "we need the dairy industry - it suports our lifestyles" I say bugger the compromises that such an argument is based on - give me some milk made down the road at a price based on local / not international trends and demands etc. I mean why would I want my kids to inherit a country that ruins our natural environment and molycoddles an industry that plays large scaled tactical war games on the international market stage. Be done with those bullying industries.

Most countries export 5% of their milk output we export over 95%.

moo moo

boo boo

Madgie
43 comments since 2 Jul 2010
Scary huh, its a real shame independent dairy distributors can't lower their prices. If they did then they could lead by example and that in turn would have a positive effect on the future of the New Zealand environment and its economy overall. The down side is that this approach takes time like a good cheese or wine, since we all know how difficult it is to make a difference.
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b'art Homme
12 articles & 207 comments since 22 May 2010
Yeah,
If we all stopped buying it.................................
If artists made strong art about just what you said.....................................
Madgie
43 comments since 2 Jul 2010

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benjamin
1 articles & 212 comments since 30 Nov 2007

 last year was interesting for the choice of winning entry, but even more interesting for reactions of the 'outraged' artists and lopsided debate through the media. this year (as noted above) the thing has the feel of a shittily curated group show... if this is the current pick of the crop then gawdelpus. (though this is only judged from the facebook page) i wonder whether b'art knows of dane mitchell's winning entry last year; it would seem to fulfill his preconditions of what meaningful art is, except the bit about winning a competition/being accepted by the institution. mr's comment re youth and art histories is enlightened (no pun intended) - where is the new? where is the contemporary? the traditions and histories of hangy thingy art are long and inspiring, mr t. mentions eva hesse where the dullness of this crop of hangy thingy art only really serves as reverence and makes an artist, dead for 40 years, more important. if you can't do hangy thingy art well - don't do it at all


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b'art Homme
12 articles & 207 comments since 22 May 2010

Yep I know about Dane's rubbish - and there is no doubt it was clever. What is the origin of the left hand hanging image Ben? And... is the current show a "hanging thingi art" their pre-requisite/theme?

benjamin
1 articles & 212 comments since 30 Nov 2007

the image is of maurizio cattelan's 'hanging children' - a proper hangy thingy work! (there are better images available)

and no there was no 'pre-requisite/theme' its just what got selected from the entrants; what it does go to show is how much of both the hangy thingy and pile o' crap genres of art making is being made by young aotearoans. as mr pointed out it is old, old, old - there is NOTHING contemporary about it whatsoever.

eva hesse was challenging all sorts of assumptions and conventions about both minimalism and the heroic art patriarchy - what does this current crop of hangy thingy pile o' crap ask of us? nothing aside from placing it in this art historic lineage - give me 'hanging children' anyday

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b'art Homme
12 articles & 207 comments since 22 May 2010
Well said. I mean all it is really saying is - it/ the show/ is deeply irrelevant yes? Old hat, safe Macrame craft poop. But in these increasingly "conservative times" it doesn't surprize me. My controversial art work submitted to the Wellington City Council's social housing tenant's only art exhibition "Complex Creative" last month where most of my works were censored and rejected has now led to me being evicted as one of their most successful tenant leaders and artist. And this for doing my Hommage to Duchamp of nearly 100 years ago!!! As they said in Dad's army... "they don't like it up 'em"
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Pinnochio
2 articles & 143 comments since 23 Feb 2010

foucault? derrida? greenberg? cuspit? kraus?...

 

...no it's clive dunn.

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mr tourette
9 articles & 289 comments since 29 Jan 2009


best comment off the facebook site.

"Even a blind person could appreciate this!"

quite so.

they are offering free gifts for comment...

...we do it for love.

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mr tourette
9 articles & 289 comments since 29 Jan 2009
benjamin those are some strange fruit hangin' in those trees.
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b'art Homme
12 articles & 207 comments since 22 May 2010

Judging is always a pig and a poke - I reckon the art will have its way with no regard what so ever to vested interest art competitions - Here on artbash and in one's mind and in one's studio is where the art happens and the resultant work or here - the conversations are free and open - not judged - these are the seeds of art freedom to express - of course. For the love of it indeed Ben touchee. And we come back and back because like this conversation, for one, it is compelled by truths, a bit of humour, a dash of wisdom and all this adds up to respect. How can you respect brail art for the sighted?!? Well that's been done of course and there is validity in it but really... We had dada a century or so ago for very powerful even political reasons - surely - The madness of what was leading to and from WW1 is a correlative of capitalist meltdown right now - it's just not so easy to clearly see. The economic recession bailed out hugely by making up money etc. to save banks - so why not fire that scale of support into solving poverty, equitable food distribution? Not much of that level of thinking in the hangy thingis eh? Nice one Pin... dear old Clive Dunn.

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