What is Art?
> Art Theory and History
So i've been pondering the question; why art? What makes a person an artist, and why do artists do what they do? Or even more to the point, what is art?
Is it at the point where the desire to express oneself and his/her talent meet, that one becomes an artist? Or is talent even a factor. Could it therefore be said that everybody is an artist, as each person expresses themselves in one way or another - regardless of any or little apparent talent?
What better place to ask the question in a forum of 'artists' - what ever that word may mean.
'Is it at the point where the desire to express oneself and his/her talent meet'
No, it isn't.
Is this some sort of sick joke?
Expressing oneself is what you do when you need to feed your babies.
I was a teenage breastpump. Creating babies is art.
Perhaps we should have a go at what we really think art is.
The problem is that you don't know when you are not being inspired. When suddenly you bump into something that gets you going. It's been so long that at first you don't recognise the feeling. Real art is exhilarating. It should be alive with some sort of essence. To my knowledge human beings are the only animal or thing that can make real art. The complexity of being needed to do such a high task can only be done by a human machine. Art is moving and moves.
Oh and real art is so rich that you just want to be surrounded by it all day long.
@ Quint - agreed. Well said.
@Quint do you have to think when you write things down?
I don't know how to answer this without thinking?
Ok fair enough, but first you have to agree that art is the artist. This is not new, so once you move on from that I often hear you speak of wether or not artists are real.
But what is it that makes you want to discuss this? Surely its not purely for the sake of being allowed to say something too?
@ Quint, why don't you help yourself? Does art exist?
I have nothing to defend?
I don't think that all that can be known is known. Human beings are confined by the little they know. There is knowledge beyond our own minds.
Art exists in the sense that it's value is that it is part of the path toward human enlightenment, as with the liberal arts, strengthening our intellectual capability. Alas knowledge typically leads us to nihilism .... "He that increases knowledge increases sorrow" Ecclesiastes 1:18.
It's not all bad though.
Sandy says, "I had a dream. In fact, it was the night I met you. In the dream, there was our world and the world was dark because there weren't any robins, and the robins represented love. And for the longest time, there was just this darkness. And all of a sudden, thousands of robins were set free, and they flew down and brought this Blinding Light of Love. And it seemed like that love would be the only thing that would make any difference. And it did. So I guess it means there is trouble 'til the robins come." Blue Velvet (film)
Knowledge is dangerous, but when mixed with compassion all the inhabitants of earth benefit.
So we really are free to experiment and discover ourselves.
Real art or true art urges us on. Art that is really craft seeks to satisfy and comfort, appealing to what we already know. Peer pressure establishes an anti-creativity environment making real art in our community extremely rare.
Sometimes I wonder wether it is important to say things in the best way we can.
'The problem is that you don't know when you are not being inspired.' - That's the problem, to have a moral obligation over ones surface reflection.
Oh I wouldn't say that I feel morally obliged or duty bound but I have a genuine interest in the betterment of myself and the rest of humanity. A love of good. To find good we find ourselves wading through evil. This is where faith comes into play. 'The problem is that you don't know when you are not being inspired.' - The machine is prone to degeneration. Therefore it is fun to re-angle the will of the general artworld and into an evermore ever increasing creative intuition.
So the machine that is prone to degeneration is supposed to drive itself I suppose?
Well I think the machine forgets what it is and even it's own name with every generation. Everything that mankind accumulates gets lost everytime a new generation is born. So yes the machine is left to drive itself and the passenger in the side car is stupidity. Art needs to be on it's feet and on it's feet quick! John Key is right there is much to be valued in a world class education but world class education does not exist in self-satisfied mini artworld microcosms.
Sometimes things that could have been become non existant later on, and are better off being left alone.
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I don't see it like that
Some night sky stars shine bright and then die out and it's all worth doing. Failure is irrelevant.